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Castle Sieges Poll
Hey Folks,
Let's have a poll for castle sieges for the next month. I am working on a system where the second place pledge will be awarded a second-tier castle. While this is being developed with the current point system, what castle would you like to see as the primary siege?
The complexity involved in a second place award is handling ties, or non-participation. The top points will get the best castle in the future, coding the second-tier is more complex in the event of a tie, or no pledge with any points. This is something I am working on.
Until then the options are:
1. Leave it as Aden castle with the buggy tower graphics.
2. Try Werldern Castle for a couple weeks.
3. Go back to Giran castle for PVP.
Let me know your thoughts!
Thanks
GM Charles - Global Admin & Developer - Server / Website
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Re: Castle Sieges Poll
I like the idea of a second castle. the question I have is, once the second place BP is awarded the second castle, in the next Seige do they need to defend it like the first or is it going to always be awarded to second place BP? I think the second should be "chalanged/defended" just like the first one. but can it be on another time line? and obviously a BP can only occupy one. Just another thought, once the first event of this new way to seige has been done, and the next seige is coming up, what if the bigger castle's seige is at, say 9pm and as soon as it is over the second starts. And the winners of the first can not declare on the second? maybe the owning royal has a timer to disallow he/she from chalanging for 2 hours?
if castle awarded, start timer, nul chanlange ability..... just a wild thought.
the question about the proccess of the ownership of the second castle is really what I am wondering
I think it only right, if the second place BP at the end of seige does not have "enough" points, no reward.... So zero points no castle.. not sure where a number should be set, but looking at the history a good seige means the second place BP was over 1000 ponts. these are things that can be figured out as your complexity of coding allows. -
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Great thoughts, I am still working out how it will all work... that's an interesting idea.
What iks everyones thoughts on extended sieges? Multiple sieges?
One thing I want to prevent, is the owner of the first castle using their numbers/players and an alt prince to take and control the second castle. I want mutiple pariticpating pledges to be able to have the castle. I will think of something.
GM Charles - Global Admin & Developer - Server / Website
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Is there a way to "lock" a winning BP member from joining another BP for a time period ?
member of this BP (condition = owner of castle starting at this time) for next (time period) restricted from joining another BP....
a player can go participate in a battle but it will stop their kills from adding to a seiging BP's points
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I like the idea of a second siege. I have a feeling it may be easier to prevent shenanigans with two sieges than with one siege, where you can just have the biggest BP split into two BPs and just trade tower occupation while holding off attackers to get the second castle. It's difficult to punish or prevent this kind of behavior.
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Hi Charles, is there a point to even vote here when we know there are certain people with 1x accounts setup here and could easily donimate the vote results, and what has driven the idea to switch castle again? How long did Aden got switched for from Giran?
i did not vote because i honestly don't see a point voting with the reasons given above.
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So much drama and paranoid delusions over a castle and a vote. There are only 41 votes, nobody is using a bunch of accounts to manipulate the vote. I have records of every account that voted. There was a double vote, and both of their votes were removed.
I made a post about castle siege changes (https://l1justice.com/forum/forum/announcements-4/topic/update-server-updates-07-15-20-1527/) a while ago, and my intention to design and update the castle sieges to increase the scope. There is no conspiracy here, I was upfront from day 1. I was testing Aden castle as a condidate for a second siege. It's not changing immediately, I was just creating a poll to get community feedback, I see that was my mistake from your demeanour.
Not voting based on speculation of something thats not happening is childish.
Edit: a lot of people in your own BP voted for the change as well.
Honestly, you guys make it hard to do anything on the server. No matter what I do, there are complaints or accusations from all sides. I make changes without input, I get yelled at. I create a poll, and people get bitchy and spulcate on nonsense. I am better off doing nothing, and never making changes it would seem.
Forget the new castle siege idea, forget changing it and updating it.
Poll is over. Don't vote as there is no point in voting apparently.
GM Charles - Global Admin & Developer - Server / Website
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Re: Castle Sieges Poll
F%#$ what people say, dude. This isn't a democracy. Make the choices you think are best for the server. People will complain either way so at least do what you think is right. This is the best lineage pserver ever, and you're to credit for that. If people think that adding content to the game is biased somehow, that's just ridiculous on its face. I wouldn't trade places with you, but you know everyone who is worth anything respects you. We do need more castles. It's a growing server. Nothing wrong with experimenting till we get it right.
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I second what Gilderoy said, I used to run an online game similar to Lineage and no matter what was added someone would always complain. You will always have the selfish and childish complain and moan for no real reason, the best thing to do is if there is no constructive criticism just completely ignore the comments.
I only started on the server a couple of weeks ago, so my knowledge is limited but with what I'm currently seeing is the chances of me or other new starters ever owning a castle with my pledge, seem as much of a dream now as they did back in the days I played on live (15-18 years ago) certain groups have grown so powerful in their time playing that manipulation of a pvp based castle system is inevitable without serious consequences. (Bans/Deleveling/Kit removal and destruction type consequences) but this would then rely on players/GMs having to report/act on the infractions which require proof and a whole load more effort which I am fully aware is something that all server hosts want to minimise not increase.
So instead of a tower/pvp based system for a second castle could a new system be developed, something along the lines of the feather system and an auction system combined. If the mops in different castle areas dropped a new "Castle Token" that is specific to that area, which could be collected and then spent in a silent auction type system to effectively buy the castle until the next auction. this would allow smaller pledges a chance to actually own a castle if they devoted time to hunting in a specific area. It also opens up a revenue source for lower level players to be able to sell the tokens to higher level more experienced players/pledges, helping with wealth distribution.
For the princess/prince that is unsuccessful in their auction bid, they would have their tokens returned to them, so they can have a greater chance of owning the castle in the next auction. But the pledge that owns the castle would need to bid to keep the castle but if they fail to win, they lose the tokens that they spent. this would allow the castle to change hands and give the little people/pledges an opportunity to actually own a castle.
the system could be rolled out to multiple castles and offer a new unique feature to the server. (one that is somewhat less toxic than getting repeated owned by the current ruling group)
As I said at the start I'm fairly new to the server and my knowledge is somewhat limited, so please rip the idea to pieces, hopefully without people simply saying things along the lines of "Get good" "Lineage is all about pvp" because that's just limited small minded thinking in my opinion. I just hope that it sparks something that may lead to a non pvp based route to castle ownership, which makes the server itself more appealing to more people. More choice are always better in my book.