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TU rate in noob ToS
any possible chance of increasing TU rate in noob tos, or reduce the mob damage output. level 54 mage 18 int/wis base, adding int to current lvl, -60AC and the TU fails horribly. 1 mob the damage is ok but 3-4 its not, cant even keep hp up using VT, have to immune myself and even firestorm doesnt kill them in a timely manner. Unless NCSoft changed the rate before shutdown i dont recall tu failing as often as it does, even lvl 48+ tu landed often enough
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I've already weakened the mobs in Noob ToS twice. We are interested in hearing more feedback on this before a decision. What is everyone elses toughts on how Noob ToS currently is?
GM Charles - Global Admin & Developer - Server / Website
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I'm admittedly ignorant about mages, but I was under the impression that they had much better hunting options than LOTA. That different classes have different hunting areas in which they excel was sort of intentional, or so I believed. I've hunted a lot in LOTA with Knight, Royal and DK, and it was fine for those classes. I play mostly as a Royal, and I perform terribly in Lastavard, a place that Wizards probably eat alive. Should all classes be able to do well everywhere?
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why is a mage lvling at noob tos going melee style or TU at low lvl?
just do AOE at lasta, 10f or gp, even gather and aoe those bks make good exp while making millions every 5-10min......if you want to play single target hunt, you should start an elf, knight, royal, dk, or illus.....you don't go melee style mage unless you are lv70+....and TU chances are always low when you are low lvl/int....mage already outperform all other classes in many aspects....i don't see why they need another buff...
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I am even more suprise GM already make the TU easier in noob tos TWICE??
From what I remember Mage have a better chance TU in Tos if they were 23int+ on live and zelgo. but not 100%.
And Mage has so many option to AOE leveling already, why suggust GM to increase TU rate because the place does not suit you?
Can I create suggust post like below:
GM can you lower the hp for all mobs on 30F, my darkelf did not kill them in less than 3hit.
GM can you make Lasta hit less, they hurt my elf so bad, my elf do not have I2h.
GM can you increate more respawn on gp4f my knight is killing too fast there.
Continue..........
This post is very laughable. The easiest play, easiest fast leveling, easiest adena maker class is suggusting to be more easier to play.
I think noob tos is good as what it is now.
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Noob TOS is tuned really well, right now, and you can hunt there until 60. TU should not be landing consistently on super high xp mops with 22 INT, frankly. Mages have other options if they're struggling with TOS.
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you can stay in noob tos until 60??
Do you have special access or what? my char got kicked out once i am 58
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I'm not 60 yet, but that's what the notes say. If it's not working, it'll get fixed presumably.
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Should be fixed when server comes back online
GM Charles - Global Admin & Developer - Server / Website
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The MOP strength, exp and now lvl cap is just fine there. No need to change and like others said, mages aren't hurting for easy areas to lvl. It is manageable there and good experience.
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Thank you for everyones input, and the suggestion. Considering we've already reduced the strength of the mobs twice and increased the experience there twice... and in combination with everyones suggestions and feedback... we feel that it is good the way it is.
GM Charles - Global Admin & Developer - Server / Website
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@omni because im gaining karma while i get exp. why should i have to sunburst every single mob or imm myself to mass kill?? all those places you stated to hunt at dont give karma. its noob tos, meaning its for noobs and thats why tu rarely failed at lvl 50. im lvl 54 and tu fails so many times in a row, if tu even works, its pointless to hunt there. I dont even know why the level cap was increased to 58/60 from 52 considering all the other places there is to hunt for exp such as GP
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Charles you're taking 3-4 ppl's input vs the whole server, how is that fair? i went on test, made a int/wis mage lvl'd to 59 had 33 int with items, i couldnt enter at lvl 59 so i reduced it to 55. Casting tu on the bapho looking mob was succesful at lvl 55 with 33 & 28 int, however I couldnt tu the lesser demon mob with 28 int, put items back on for 33, still failed, i even lvl'd back up 57 made no difference, lvl'd to 58 and got booted out. I then lvl'd to 65 to get the extra int from lvls, now having 40 int with items, lvl back to 55, could not tu succ mob at all with 40 int but i could tu the lesser demon after it failing 5 times so maybe adjust the tu rate for the succ/lesser demon mobs rather then ALL the mobs. I will see what int is needed to work efficiently to benefit me in the meantime
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In regards reducing the damage output: As opposed to taking 1 persons advise? It's fair beacuse I've evaluated Noob ToS myself and made the monsters hurt significantly less compared to what they should, or were doing. I've increased the experience by 140-150% compared to what they should be! I do not feel that it needs to be any more easy mode just because you have to immune.
The reasons that Noob ToS was increased to 60 was specifically to give newer players, and lower leveled players a place to catch up without the fear of getting killed by significantly higher leveled and geared players. It's an alternative.
Why should you have to immune yourself? Because you're a mage... Everywhere I hunted as a mage, I would use immune .. because soft ac.
It wasn't designed to be a place for mass killing.. it was a place for players to catch up. Of all the classes, the mage needs the least amount of help/love to level faster. I am sorry, they just don't need extra attention at this time.. my focus is better spent elsewhere... mages have zero issue leveling.
Now, that's not to say that the land rate of TU doesn't need to be looked into.. I havent tested that against all monsters, and that is a takeaway that I have to ensure its working as intended. My takeaway will be to see if TU needs to be adjusted / improved .. so my work from this thread isn't done... my decision was specifically in regards to making the mobs weaker.
Edit -> you can use TheBes staff to knock down them as well. There are plenty of ways to kill them as a mage..
GM Charles - Global Admin & Developer - Server / Website
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https://l1justice.com/lineage/database/items/41206/
check the ToS mobs, the bapho/beleth/demon have 30-35 MR, the succubus and lesser demon have 100 MR.
that's why the TU fails on them. working as intended... don;t think the mage needs more easy ways to gain money/xp by 1-shotting every mob in there.
farming frags is one of the things mages aren't the best at (alltho cougar mage doing Death/Chaos is easy 100-200frags each kill).