Hello all

I want to start a petition against the online market.
We all have a love-hate relationship with GTV, but that does not mean that an online market is the solution for this.
Rare items are beautiful because they are not only rare,
but also difficult to get even with adena.
Crafted items are also beautiful because it is not easy to get everything together.
There are also quite a lot of accounts in GTV, even the day of restart.
I love the idea that you have to get in touch with the right person at the right time to get what you want.
I think it is a very bad and boring idea to have an online market, because GTV will be a ghost town once again.

You only realize what you have when it is no longer there.

Maybe a bigger stash will be necressary as well if there will be future updates with new items and content.
Currently if you want to craft several items, you need a character special to hold the ingredients.

Everyone has their own taste and play style,
but would you all please reconsider your thoughts about the online market and let me know what you think.

There is also a poll, please vote.

Kind regards,

Your boy Reh

It seems a Great Idea, discuss about a future planned change before it happens, because it can be a future problem. As example the multi-client for me it was a terrible step, and now we are paying the consequences, but once it's done step back it's hard.

I'm against online market. Online market don't help the game.

Online market, allows to know the ammount of items in server - It's a negative point, people is going to manipulate the prices or put to sell items when they see that can be more expensive.

Online market, makes easy for RMT players to sell stuff and to buy high items to made ultimate gear - It's a negative point, at least if there is no online market, you need be connected to buy the item you are interested in, making hard to top-pro players to made ultimate gear. This makes more possible to all players to have oportunities against tops.

Online market, allow people with insane amount of adena, to buy all the top items, monopolizing the item that they are interested to avoid other enemys to have it. - Again a negative point.

You want to sell you have 2 options Chat or Shops -> Positive: You have to adapt your price to the amount the people has in that moment if you need sell the item because you need the adena to buy other thinks. With online market you just put the item and forgive it, in the other way you have to do actions to sell it: 1) Negotiate with players or 2)Take your time to put the shop. And this helps to control the prices, because if you are in point 1) Negotiating because you have made an offer in general chat, someone can make you an offer under your price but enough interesting for you, and if you are in point 2) Shop and hours/days passes without sell you are going to down the price.

Finally we are low population (a real base around 200 frequent players?), so again a online market only helps the speculators, if you can't sell with 200 players, you are doing something bad.

So for me, please, don't ever put the online market. In fact in NA live there wasn't online market and we were happy.

Online Market favours transactions. They will increase. Lineage was a game slow-paced. The XP - drop multiplier shortens already the lifespan of a server. But no one wants to grind 10 years now to get lv 75. Fair enough.

I didnt have any trouble getting or selling items without an online market.

I prefer not to have online web market because of how long it will take to implement it without potential exploits.  I'd rather the GMs focus on things that matter in game instead.

 

Just remove players in /shop mode from /who, please.

The only way i see online market useless ,  Would be to be able to have /shop  offline ... like other server had , you setup your shop ... once its open and running , you could 'logout' (exit wasnot working) then you could log on other toon on same account , or log a diff account and having your shop still running... 

also it be nice to have shop beeing able to buy/sell more then just 8 items. 

also it be nice to have diff limit of buy/sell ... aka ...  atm you can buy 2000 items if price is 9,999 adena or lower. 400 items if price is 10,000-9,999,999  and only 1 items if price is 10m+ .

weight should be removed in gtz to favor 1 shop toon only.  

myself , i have to run 3 shop in order to be happy with the amount of buy/sell and weight.

Its for sure , if online market bring exploits , im against it... even if i know gm will fix abuser quick.

i dont rly like the way you guys think about items too , myself if i start a knight and i want sumthing stupid and hella cheap , i have to bug chat to get it ... and often since im looking for it , i will have to pay 10x the actual value of the item. i think online market should be avalaible for items under 5m or 10m only. this way , i could get that f***ing holywalk spellbook at resonable price for my new mage. its ridiculous , sum ppl look for stuff that ppl are willing to hand out free to friends/guildy and they have to pay 10-25x the price because of the lack of ppl.  keep in mind , lineage was made for thousands of ppl playing per server , where if u wanted sumthing there was for sure a shop in 1 of the trade zone.

 

I agree 100% with pech. People who don't want the market are the loudest, but there are plenty of people who do want it.

You got some good points Reh, but for me buying and selling takes way too long, I always end up paying too much and selling too low because I rather spend my time playing the game instead of buying/selling . Also, I don't like to keep my pc turned on all day just to sell something.

I also hate having to check all the shops just to find an item, a lot of shops don't show what they sell/buy in their shop text. With an Online Market I can buy and sell stuff much faster.

I understand why you don't want it, but for me an Online Market would be great

Reh will NEVER sell me a destroy book and I will NEVER see it in GTZ; Ive NEVER seen destroy in GTZ in any server. So since Reh wont sell me destroy; I want online market. Plenty of people have tons of items to sell. /shop you can only sell 8 AND you have to pray server/client doesnt crash. After 2-3 server resets/crashes; it's fuck a /shop mode.

"PREDICTING A PROBLEM"

Online market will be under heavy attack by the nerds. FOREVERRRRRR BUT... that's not my problem now is it o.o

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Please don't make online market. Online market will ruin the economy on the server. The way the server is going right now is wonderful. Masterroshi you are wrong sir. I have seen destroy in GTV on this server and others. Maybe you shouldn't piss people off and they might sell you destroy lol

gtv? no1 is going to sell destroy at tradezone for less than 300m.

my problem is my computer is not old as lineage.

so it crashes like every 4hour means i cant open shop and go to sleep or go to work :( 

i have tons of items need to sell and need to buy.

im looking foward web market or shop char stay on when log off